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ariel castro o a former bus driver. the short time ago the police spoke about the suspect, listen to this. >> the three young ladies were taken to metro hospital where they were treated by the hospital staff there. currently we have the three brothers that are under arrest. ages 50, 52, and 54. they are being held in the in t awaiting charms. that charging with come probably within the next 36 hours. >> now the phone is sharon. she's a reporter with wky c in cleveland. sara i know you've covered the story a long time along with your colleagues. a pretty dramatic day. >> absolutely. we are all still shaking our heads in disbelief. our phones have not shop ringing. really a miracle here in cleveland tonight. >> in terms of what we know right now, these three brothers are in custody. we know the one is castro. we assume the other two are also called castro. what do we know about it? >> are they all expected to being in the plot to keep these women in the house. >> at this point we don't know much. police are not confirming
ariel castro o a former bus driver. the short time ago the police spoke about the suspect, listen to this. >> the three young ladies were taken to metro hospital where they were treated by the hospital staff there. currently we have the three brothers that are under arrest. ages 50, 52, and 54. they are being held in the in t awaiting charms. that charging with come probably within the next 36 hours. >> now the phone is sharon. she's a reporter with wky c in cleveland. sara i know...
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castro's son whose first name is ariel. you cleared up a little bit of a mystery about the article that was written a few years about the disappearance of gina. tell me about that. >> a local newspaper here, written by ariel castro was certainly circulating online. piers as you know, the name and the idea of the suspect in this case having written an article about this gina's disappearance has really gotten everyone's attention. so i actually found ariel, who goes by anthony on facebook, if he can confirm that he wrote the article. i spoke with the editor of the plain press at this time and he was in 2004 and he confirmed that ariel was a college student at the time and did the article as part of a class assignment. anthony castro said yes he did write the article when he was a student at bowling green, ohio. i asked him what he thought about the girls being located. he was stunned that something like this would happen. he was my dad. i don't know that i should say anything other than this is beyond comprehension. his fathe
castro's son whose first name is ariel. you cleared up a little bit of a mystery about the article that was written a few years about the disappearance of gina. tell me about that. >> a local newspaper here, written by ariel castro was certainly circulating online. piers as you know, the name and the idea of the suspect in this case having written an article about this gina's disappearance has really gotten everyone's attention. so i actually found ariel, who goes by anthony on facebook,...
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ariel castro among them. he had a job until november. he was not often there. how does this happen and you keep it a secret? >> because he's out and about is how he keeps the secret. we've seen this with dozens of serial killers. jeffrey dahmer was drinking beer with his neighbors all the time too. he needs to act normally, so nobody ever suspects him. which is why he speaks in that video, when he's stopped on the motorcycle. he's so polite. nervous, but very polite and respectful to the officer, which is why the officer lets him go. the minute he starts acting odd, and the oddest thing is, while he was cordial with his neighbors, he never allowed them into his house. it's a mind your own business credo. you know your neighbors on a superficial level. if there's trouble, most people do not want to get involved. and they expect the same courtesy if there's trouble in their house. mind your own business. his activities would very rarely come to the attention of police. >> casey, thank you very much. casey jordan. a criminologist and profiler for the fbi. >>> a ve
ariel castro among them. he had a job until november. he was not often there. how does this happen and you keep it a secret? >> because he's out and about is how he keeps the secret. we've seen this with dozens of serial killers. jeffrey dahmer was drinking beer with his neighbors all the time too. he needs to act normally, so nobody ever suspects him. which is why he speaks in that video, when he's stopped on the motorcycle. he's so polite. nervous, but very polite and respectful to the...
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ain't nobody next door, i saw ariel leave. i heard that girl scream and saw him running across the street. i went outside and wondered what he was doing. amanda say i'm stuck in here, help get me out. he either don't no english that well or panicked. so here i come with my half eaten big mac. and i look and i say what's up? and she like i've been trapped in here. he won't let me out. it's me and my baby. i said you ain't got to talk to more, i'm trying to get the door open and i can't. so i did what i had to do and kicked the bottom of the door and she crawled out of it. she grabbed her baby and flew me off. all right. fine. i got some girl and her kid. >> what did she hook like? what was she wearing? >> a jump suit. she had a white tank top on. rings on, mascara. she was well groomed. she didn't look like she was kidnapped. that's what i'm saying. she was like i'm in here trapped. i'm like, well, you don't look kidnapped. maybe you've got a poi friend problem. but i'm thinking, i know who lives here. he's 50 something. you ca
ain't nobody next door, i saw ariel leave. i heard that girl scream and saw him running across the street. i went outside and wondered what he was doing. amanda say i'm stuck in here, help get me out. he either don't no english that well or panicked. so here i come with my half eaten big mac. and i look and i say what's up? and she like i've been trapped in here. he won't let me out. it's me and my baby. i said you ain't got to talk to more, i'm trying to get the door open and i can't. so i did...
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i just saw ariel leave. ain't nobody over there. heard that girl scream and sue him run across the street. and went outside. and wonder what he was doing. and the -- amanda says, i'm stuck in here. help get me out. he -- the guy that don't know english that well or punished. and said, it's a girl. that's all he did. here i come with my half-eaten big mac. and i look and i say, what's up? she says, i've been trapped in here. and he won't let me out. me and my baby. i'm trying to get the door open and can't. he torture chambered it some way, locked it up. i kicked the bottom of the door. she crawled out of it. she grabbed her baby, and threw me off. all right, fine. i have some girl and her kid. >> what did she look like? what was she wearing? >> jump suit. she had a white tank top on. mascara. she was well-groomed. like she didn't look like she was kidnapped. i'm in here trapped. you don't look kidnapped. maybe you have a boyfriend problem. but i'm thinking, i know who lives here. and he's 50-something. you can't be the boyfriend pro
i just saw ariel leave. ain't nobody over there. heard that girl scream and sue him run across the street. and went outside. and wonder what he was doing. and the -- amanda says, i'm stuck in here. help get me out. he -- the guy that don't know english that well or punished. and said, it's a girl. that's all he did. here i come with my half-eaten big mac. and i look and i say, what's up? she says, i've been trapped in here. and he won't let me out. me and my baby. i'm trying to get the door...
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now we know there has been charges filed against ariel. but the charges were taken into custody, pedro and o'neill. he would be serving life in prison if he is found guilty of rape and kidnappings, never mind anything else. what about them? >> it surprised me they really didn't know anything about it. but then again, i've had cases around the country from dennis rader, the strangler, no one new, living in a small house, children didn't know. worked the case out of gary hidenick who kept women in a pit in philadelphia. in fact, that's where they got the idea, the movie "silence of the lambs" and no one knew anything. he boarded up the windows, turned up the radio loud so when he left no one could hear the screams and he would browbeat them and put them in a pit in the floor. only difference, in the movie he filled the pit up with water and would electrocute them as punishment. and there were different times where they could escape but didn't escape. they were fearful of their lives. and they just -- >> right. >> they just held back and just
now we know there has been charges filed against ariel. but the charges were taken into custody, pedro and o'neill. he would be serving life in prison if he is found guilty of rape and kidnappings, never mind anything else. what about them? >> it surprised me they really didn't know anything about it. but then again, i've had cases around the country from dennis rader, the strangler, no one new, living in a small house, children didn't know. worked the case out of gary hidenick who kept...
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ariel castro o a former bus driver. the short time ago the police spoke about the suspect, listen to this. >> the three young ladies were taken to metro hospital where
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a look inside the head of ariel castro. what we're learning about his state of mind from a note written by him and recovered from the house where the women were held. i am an american success story. i'm a teacher. i'm a firefighter. i'm a carpenter. i'm an accountant. a mechanical engineer. and i shop at walmart. truth is, over sixty percent of america shops at walmart every month. i find what i need, at a great price. and the money i save goes to important things. braces for my daughter. a little something for my son's college fund. when people look at me, i hope they see someone building a better life. vo: living better: that's the real walmart. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. ocuvite. help protect your eye health. from the united states postal service a budding artist can ship like a big business. just go online to pay, print and have your packages picked up for free. we'll do th
a look inside the head of ariel castro. what we're learning about his state of mind from a note written by him and recovered from the house where the women were held. i am an american success story. i'm a teacher. i'm a firefighter. i'm a carpenter. i'm an accountant. a mechanical engineer. and i shop at walmart. truth is, over sixty percent of america shops at walmart every month. i find what i need, at a great price. and the money i save goes to important things. braces for my daughter. a...
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the cleveland police chief said ariel castro has waived his miranda rights and here is ariel castro. he's facing four counts of kidnapping, three counts of rain. it's important to reiterate, his two brothers will not be charged in the case. ariel has been stopped by the police in the past. martin savage has obtained video of him being grilled in 2008. it's fascinating to see this tape. >> it is. let me give you a bit of background on it. this is dashcam video, it's taken from what is supposed to be a routine traffic stop, except the person stopped is ariel castro, and then, we know -- according to authorities, at the time, he has three women supposedly prisoner in his home. take a look at the video, it's rolling video that comes from the police car. about 8:30 in the evening. the officer rolling along. he notices that a motorcycle whizzes past. you see it real quickly. what he notices and you don't in the video, is that the motorcycle had a license plate that looked suspicious. he pulls into the gas station and pulls the man over. here's where it gets interesting. the conversation, h
the cleveland police chief said ariel castro has waived his miranda rights and here is ariel castro. he's facing four counts of kidnapping, three counts of rain. it's important to reiterate, his two brothers will not be charged in the case. ariel has been stopped by the police in the past. martin savage has obtained video of him being grilled in 2008. it's fascinating to see this tape. >> it is. let me give you a bit of background on it. this is dashcam video, it's taken from what is...
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a man by the name of ariel castro, 52 years old, a bus driver, has been arrested. he is the suspect in this. amanda berry was seen by a neighbor trying to break out of the house. that neighbor, a man by the name of ramsey, charles ramsey helped her break out. she ran out of the house with a small child and dialed 9-1-1. this is the 9-1-1 call she made from amanda berry. >> help me, i'm amanda berry. >> do you need police, fire or ambulance? >> i need police. >> okay, what's going on there. >> i've been kidnapped and i've been missing for ten years and i'm here, i'm flee p free now. >> okay. about what's your address? >> i can't hear you. >> okay, stay there with those neighbors, talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. okay. okay. okay talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. hello? >> yeah, talk to the police when thigh get there. >> okay. are they here right now. >> we're going to send them as soon as we get a car open. >> all right, we're sending them, okay? >> who is the guy you're -- who's the guy went out? how old is he? >> he's like 52. i'm a
a man by the name of ariel castro, 52 years old, a bus driver, has been arrested. he is the suspect in this. amanda berry was seen by a neighbor trying to break out of the house. that neighbor, a man by the name of ramsey, charles ramsey helped her break out. she ran out of the house with a small child and dialed 9-1-1. this is the 9-1-1 call she made from amanda berry. >> help me, i'm amanda berry. >> do you need police, fire or ambulance? >> i need police. >> okay,...
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did she ever see anybody're than the man, ariel castro? >> well, she said that, yeah, even his mom used to come to that house. but i don't think they noticed nothing. they didn't notice anybody? >> no, nobody. even us that was outside every single day. no clue of nothing. no suspicious, nothing. >> and you were outside every day on the porch. so you would have seen everything? >> no, not to do because i went out for a little bit. and she called me. she's here with me, but she don't speak english. but she's here and she was the one that let them borrow the phone for them to call. they had the address and everything record. >> yes. and angie, i don't know if you heard, but we just reported that two more men have been taken into custody in relation to this case. did you ever see anybody else? >> one guy in the bicycle. and then he had a friend coming to his house. because he used to play guitar and everything. but i don't know how they never noticed nothing. >> and what was ariel castro like? was he friendly? was he removed? what was he like
did she ever see anybody're than the man, ariel castro? >> well, she said that, yeah, even his mom used to come to that house. but i don't think they noticed nothing. they didn't notice anybody? >> no, nobody. even us that was outside every single day. no clue of nothing. no suspicious, nothing. >> and you were outside every day on the porch. so you would have seen everything? >> no, not to do because i went out for a little bit. and she called me. she's here with me,...
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they also called a case against ariel castro a slam dunk. tonight, new details on the rescue from the unsung hero in the case. it's not who you think. >>> now i want to go right to cleveland where woio is live for us. ed, another day of dramatic new developments on this story. you came face-to-face today with ariel castro. tell me about that. >> reporter: yeah, good evening. and i it come face-to-face with him with my cell phone, because i was checking some police records at the cleveland police when this baby was born, it apparently stopped breathing and everyone started to scream, started to panic, and ariel castro said, if that baby dies, i'm going to kill you. a complete scene of panic is what is being painted here, with one of the captive girls being told she had to deliver the baby of amanda. >> what is clearly emerging about this man ariel castro is that he rules with utter fear, and he would do tests to pretend to leave the house, and if the girls would pretend to escape, he would beat them up, and appalling details of multiple pregn
they also called a case against ariel castro a slam dunk. tonight, new details on the rescue from the unsung hero in the case. it's not who you think. >>> now i want to go right to cleveland where woio is live for us. ed, another day of dramatic new developments on this story. you came face-to-face today with ariel castro. tell me about that. >> reporter: yeah, good evening. and i it come face-to-face with him with my cell phone, because i was checking some police records at the...
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they also called a case against ariel castro a slam dunk. tonight, new details on the rescue from the unsung hero in the case. it's not who you think. >>> now i want to go right to cleveland where woio is live for us. ed, another day of dramatic new developments on this story. you came face-to-face today with ariel castro. tell me about that. >> reporter: yeah, good evening. and i it come face-to-face with him with my cell phone, because i was checking some police records at the cleveland police headquarters, and all of a sudden, investigators started walking this guy down to another room for another interview. it was fbi agents, it was also the cleveland police sex crimes investigators and all of a sudden, here's this guy, the house of horrors, the man everybody is talking about, right there in front of my eyes. so on his way back, i shouted a couple of questions at him and he wasn't talking, he was hiding his face. so suddenly the monster is hiding his face, embarrassed. but i asked him, "how could you do this, what would you say to those
they also called a case against ariel castro a slam dunk. tonight, new details on the rescue from the unsung hero in the case. it's not who you think. >>> now i want to go right to cleveland where woio is live for us. ed, another day of dramatic new developments on this story. you came face-to-face today with ariel castro. tell me about that. >> reporter: yeah, good evening. and i it come face-to-face with him with my cell phone, because i was checking some police records at the...
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>> his name is ariel castro. >> how old is he? >> he's like 52. and i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news for the last ten years. >> okay, i got that, dear. >> dr. mcdavid, obviously she was desperate, desperate to get out of that situation, hardly surprising now we know what it was. did you read anything else into her voice, into her demeanor in that call? that call? >> well, no, i think she was very frightened and i think she had a very small time window that she was working at. from what we understand, he left, she had him leave to pick up some food for the child and she knew she had a very small window of time that she could work with, and she was clearly very afraid. the other thing that we know is that these girls had access or we think they had access to a tv, so they knew every year when their families were looking for them and celebrating the loss, they knew that this was going on. >> you've had lots of experience of issues relating to this kind of situation but nothing quite like this, i shouldn't imagine. one thing people keep asking today is as these wome
>> his name is ariel castro. >> how old is he? >> he's like 52. and i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news for the last ten years. >> okay, i got that, dear. >> dr. mcdavid, obviously she was desperate, desperate to get out of that situation, hardly surprising now we know what it was. did you read anything else into her voice, into her demeanor in that call? that call? >> well, no, i think she was very frightened and i think she had a very small time window...
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ariel castro has been stopped by the police in the past. martin savage has obtained video of him being grilled back in 2008. what do we know about this? >> hello, anderson. let me set it up a bit. this is dash cam video you're looking at. it is coming from a now retired cleveland professor and it's ariel castro he pulls over. let's roll the videotapel and i'll tell you about it as it rolls. a little after 8:30 p.m., thursday, june 12th, 2008. the officer is jim simone and notices a motorcycle whizzes past. what he sees is the license plate tilted sideways. he knows that's an old trick by some riders if they don't want the plate seen. so he pulls the rider over. it's ariel castro. he doesn't know it yet. he pulls him over in the gas station. before you listen to the sound here, i want you to take into account, remember, castro seems pretty nervous. the women have already been abducted, according to our authorities, being held in the home, and the young child has been born. he knows all of this. and he's confronted by police. take a listen. >
ariel castro has been stopped by the police in the past. martin savage has obtained video of him being grilled back in 2008. what do we know about this? >> hello, anderson. let me set it up a bit. this is dash cam video you're looking at. it is coming from a now retired cleveland professor and it's ariel castro he pulls over. let's roll the videotapel and i'll tell you about it as it rolls. a little after 8:30 p.m., thursday, june 12th, 2008. the officer is jim simone and notices a...
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you had seen ariel castro around, right? >> when i moved there, only because he was my neighbor. >> right. what was he like? >> cool. he wasn't no freak of nature. he was like me and you, because he talked about the same things you talk about. you know what i mean? regular stuff, bro. >> so yesterday, what happened? >> i'm going to tell it all. around 3:00, i was on my porch and the mailman put his mail in my mail. i looked at it like here's his mail when he come home. couple minutes later, he pulled up. he checked the mailbox, grabbed his paper. before he went in the house, i said ariel, here goes your mail. we just had the same conversation when i hand him the mail. he said they can't get it right. i said damn postal service. that's it. he left. i jumped on my bike, went to mcdonald's. came back home, i'm in my house but i'm in the living room and i'm right by the front door, because i'm looking out the front door, and man, this girl screamed like a car had hit a kid, which made me, you know, stop eating, what the hell was
you had seen ariel castro around, right? >> when i moved there, only because he was my neighbor. >> right. what was he like? >> cool. he wasn't no freak of nature. he was like me and you, because he talked about the same things you talk about. you know what i mean? regular stuff, bro. >> so yesterday, what happened? >> i'm going to tell it all. around 3:00, i was on my porch and the mailman put his mail in my mail. i looked at it like here's his mail when he come...
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it was a bandmate of ariel castro, told cnn he'd been in the house. and he described it as a typical house. here's how he described it. >> it was pretty tidy. i mean, it wasn't perfect perfect. but it wasn't dirty or anything. >> does it strike you as unusual that he would have been in the house? >> no. this is -- of course. because that's the mask of normalcy that allows captors and sometimes we see this even with serial killers who have bodies hidden in their house. the activity of normalcy. the idea that you -- he actually asked his friend, mr. dejesus, has anyone found your cousin? well, gina dejesus wasn't even his cousin, but just asking him that would throw any suspicion off. oh, here's a man who's concerned about girls who went missing a long time ago. you don't think a captive would ask that. but we call that a contra-indicator. it's intentionally set, intentionally plant sod you don't ever raise suspicion. he was very good at this. >> it's just so bizarre that there could be people this sick. i think that's what has everyone so shocked who a
it was a bandmate of ariel castro, told cnn he'd been in the house. and he described it as a typical house. here's how he described it. >> it was pretty tidy. i mean, it wasn't perfect perfect. but it wasn't dirty or anything. >> does it strike you as unusual that he would have been in the house? >> no. this is -- of course. because that's the mask of normalcy that allows captors and sometimes we see this even with serial killers who have bodies hidden in their house. the...
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that's ariel castro right there. dramatic developments all came after a neighbor heard amanda berry screaming for help. and now authorities are trying to piece together the details of how the young women were abducted and held for all those years. gina dejesus was 20 years old when she disappeared april of 2004, nine years ago. but her aunt says in all of that time, gina's mother never gave up hope. sandra ruiz says her sister's faith gave the rest of the family strength. >> ply sister had the sister of a thousand women. she knew, she knew, and she kept -- we had the strength, she kept us on the strength and that's, you know, i give her -- i don't know how she did it. if it was my daughter, i don't foe. she's my niece and i -- i survived day by day with god. amanda's part of our family. >> right. >> so will michele. michele will be with us. thick and thin, for the rest of our lives, those two women. >> i wonder, when you last saw them they were girls and when you see them now they're women. >> they're women. >> what
that's ariel castro right there. dramatic developments all came after a neighbor heard amanda berry screaming for help. and now authorities are trying to piece together the details of how the young women were abducted and held for all those years. gina dejesus was 20 years old when she disappeared april of 2004, nine years ago. but her aunt says in all of that time, gina's mother never gave up hope. sandra ruiz says her sister's faith gave the rest of the family strength. >> ply sister...
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they also called a case against ariel castro a slam dunk. now, out to cnn's poppy harlow, and now more dramatic details emerging throughout the night on the case, and what can you tell us about the latest? >>> we are just told that amanda berry had the baby who is now her 6-year-old child in the home of aerial kas troeshgs and that the baby was delivered by michelle knight, and that is what the source says that castro grabbed michelle knight and told her to deliver the baby and deliver amanda's baby and we are also told that the baby was born, piers, in a plastic tub to contain all of the amniotic fluids. and we are also told that when aman amanda's baby was born that the baby stopped breathing and everybody started to scream, and castro said if that baby dies,ly kill you. another important thing that i want to tell you, piers, this source tells us that what is most incredible here is that this girl who knew nothing about childbirth was able to deliver a baby that is now a healthy 6-year-old, and paints a chaotic and panicked and very, very
they also called a case against ariel castro a slam dunk. now, out to cnn's poppy harlow, and now more dramatic details emerging throughout the night on the case, and what can you tell us about the latest? >>> we are just told that amanda berry had the baby who is now her 6-year-old child in the home of aerial kas troeshgs and that the baby was delivered by michelle knight, and that is what the source says that castro grabbed michelle knight and told her to deliver the baby and deliver...
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mail, i go, ariel, here go your mail. same conversation when i handed him the mail. can't get it right. i said, nope. that's it. he left. i jumped on my bike, went to mcdonald's. came back home. i'm in my house, but i'm in the living room and i'm right by the front door, i'm looking out the front door. and, man, this girl screamed like a car had hit a kid, which made me stop eating, what was that? so when i got up i saw my neighbor across the street. he'd run across the street. and i'm thinking where are you going? i just saw ariel leave and i know nobody there. i heard that girl scream and saw him run across the street and ran outside wondered what he was doing. and amanda say i'm stuck in here. help get me out. guy don't know english that well and panicked. here i come with my half eaten big mac and i look and say what's up. and she's like i've been trapped in here. he won't let me out. me and my baby. i said you ain't got to talk no more. come on. i'm trying to get the door open and can't. torture chamber it some kind
mail, i go, ariel, here go your mail. same conversation when i handed him the mail. can't get it right. i said, nope. that's it. he left. i jumped on my bike, went to mcdonald's. came back home. i'm in my house, but i'm in the living room and i'm right by the front door, i'm looking out the front door. and, man, this girl screamed like a car had hit a kid, which made me stop eating, what was that? so when i got up i saw my neighbor across the street. he'd run across the street. and i'm thinking...
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a man by the name of ariel castro, 52 years old, a bus 200. all have been found alive in the same house. a man, 52 years old, a bus driver, has been arrested. amanda berry was seen by a neighbor trying to break out of the house. that neighbor, a man by the name of ramsey, charles ramsey, helped her break out. she ran out of the house with a small child, ran to a neighbor's house and dialed 911. this is the 911 call she made from amanda berry. >> 911. >> help me. help me. i'm raymoamanda berry. >> do you need police, fire or ambulance? >> i need police. >> and what's going on there? >> i've been kidnapped and i've been missing for ten years. i'm here, i'm free now. >> okay. and want's your address? [bleep]. >> [bleep]. >> looks like you're calling me from [bleep]. >> i can't hear you. okay, stay there with those neighbors and talk to police when they get there. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. hello? >> yes, talk to the priss when they get there. >> we're going to send them as soon as we get a car open. >> no, i have need them n
a man by the name of ariel castro, 52 years old, a bus 200. all have been found alive in the same house. a man, 52 years old, a bus driver, has been arrested. amanda berry was seen by a neighbor trying to break out of the house. that neighbor, a man by the name of ramsey, charles ramsey, helped her break out. she ran out of the house with a small child, ran to a neighbor's house and dialed 911. this is the 911 call she made from amanda berry. >> 911. >> help me. help me. i'm...
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earlier today we got our first look at ariel castro in the flesh. he appeared in court and was held on $8 million bond, $2 million for each of his alleged victims. amanda berry, gina dejesus, michelle knight, and, of course, the daughter berry had in captivity. we're learning more about the hell these women endured inside castro's home. a police source tells cnn castro ordered knight to deliver amanda's baby in a kiddie pool to contain the mess. also and this is a rather horrifying detail knight told police she was impregnated at least five times in captivity but castro would starve her and punch her in the stomach until she miscarried. knight is the only one still in the hospital. martin, did the prosecutor mention the death penalty just now as an option for ariel castro? >> reporter: yeah, he did. you know, that is something people have wondered about here. he mentioned that he may be pursuing aggravated murder charges here and was going to see if there could be circumstances in which it might be that the death penalty was eligible or that the cha
earlier today we got our first look at ariel castro in the flesh. he appeared in court and was held on $8 million bond, $2 million for each of his alleged victims. amanda berry, gina dejesus, michelle knight, and, of course, the daughter berry had in captivity. we're learning more about the hell these women endured inside castro's home. a police source tells cnn castro ordered knight to deliver amanda's baby in a kiddie pool to contain the mess. also and this is a rather horrifying detail...
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but we're going to begin in cleveland, ohio, where ariel castro was brought in this morning to face four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape. and believe me, those words don't even begin to describe the horrors that this unemployed former school bus driver allegedly inflicted on three young women on a daily basis for between nine and 11 years. castro was preceded in court by his brothers pedro and onil castro, who were taken in with him on monday night, but are not being charged in the brutality that was inflicted on seymour avenue. they did face some outstanding misdemeanor charges, and in unrelated cases that were, believe me, very old cases, but they were dispensed with quickly. ariel castro, on the other hand, barely looked up, and never spoke a word as the judge set bail at $8 million. and that is more than the prosecutor brian murphy was even asking for. mr. murphy called the alleged offenses "premeditated, deliberate, and depraved." and just how depraved is made woefully clear. in police reports from the night amanda berry, gina dejesus, and michelle knight were all resc
but we're going to begin in cleveland, ohio, where ariel castro was brought in this morning to face four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape. and believe me, those words don't even begin to describe the horrors that this unemployed former school bus driver allegedly inflicted on three young women on a daily basis for between nine and 11 years. castro was preceded in court by his brothers pedro and onil castro, who were taken in with him on monday night, but are not being charged in...
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>> ariel. the other two had different addresses on the lower west side. >> do you believe this is how he gained amanda and gina's trust? did he drive them to school? >> we don't have any evidence of that, that that's how it was. but that's up to the girls to tell us. we still don't know. that is one of the great unknowns right now. we anticipate getting that information from the ladies, not from the suspects. >> can you tell us more? most of us know about gina dejesus and amanda berry but we don't know much about michele's disappearance. >> i can't tell you the exact date but michele is a young lady that was reported missing over 11 years ago. and she was the focus of very few tips and leads that we the got. most of the media and most of the community awareness was for the young ladies. she was 20 years old when she left, but most of it was geared towards the two young girls. >> was she taken from the same area? >> i'll try and provide a little additional information on michele knight. she was
>> ariel. the other two had different addresses on the lower west side. >> do you believe this is how he gained amanda and gina's trust? did he drive them to school? >> we don't have any evidence of that, that that's how it was. but that's up to the girls to tell us. we still don't know. that is one of the great unknowns right now. we anticipate getting that information from the ladies, not from the suspects. >> can you tell us more? most of us know about gina dejesus...
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onil, ariel, and pedro castro. when it comes to ariel castro, the owner of that home and one of those who is facing the charges, there is also this history with a wife who filed for an order of protection after severe allegations of abuse and our scott bronstein still on the phone, got those allegations, the court documents in his hands. i was asking you, where did this woman live? is there any indication she lived in that home? because in 2005, those three women were in that home. >> hi, ashleigh, at the time of the 2005 complaint, she is not listed at that address. she's listed as living a few miles away on liberty avenue. and also detailed in the complaint, shows that she and the children are moving around a fair bit to other locations also within a few miles. she's moving around, perhaps, because she's in danger, perhaps because she's unstable in terms of safety. but at any rate, no listed at the seymour avenue address. nonetheless, she is seeking the protective order from mr. castro at this time. and that's in
onil, ariel, and pedro castro. when it comes to ariel castro, the owner of that home and one of those who is facing the charges, there is also this history with a wife who filed for an order of protection after severe allegations of abuse and our scott bronstein still on the phone, got those allegations, the court documents in his hands. i was asking you, where did this woman live? is there any indication she lived in that home? because in 2005, those three women were in that home. >> hi,...
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right now ariel castro is being held on an $8 million bond. this morning prosecutors accused castro of abducting amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight. >> kidnapping them as well as a 6-year-old daughter born during all of this in that house for nearly a decade. >> they re-emerge thankfully and miraculously three days ago at the home of mr. castro, that's a home that serves as mr. castro's residence but a prison to these three women and eventually a child. today, the situation's turned, your honor. castro stands before you a captive -- in captivity, a prisoner. the women are free to resume their lives that were interrupted. and also with the promise and the hope that justice will be served. >> so if more charges are added later on, what could these actually entail? here to answer that question hln legal analyst criminal defense attorney joey jackson. michael and i have been talking about this all morning. we have like a million questions for you here. >> wow. >> if castro faces more charges and also could he have acted alone in this?
right now ariel castro is being held on an $8 million bond. this morning prosecutors accused castro of abducting amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight. >> kidnapping them as well as a 6-year-old daughter born during all of this in that house for nearly a decade. >> they re-emerge thankfully and miraculously three days ago at the home of mr. castro, that's a home that serves as mr. castro's residence but a prison to these three women and eventually a child. today, the...
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>> his name is ariel castro. >> okay, how old is he? >> he's like 52. and i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news for the last ten years. >> okay, i got that, dear. and you say what was his name again? >> ariel castro. >> and is he white, black or hispanic? >> hispanic. >> what's he wearing? >> i don't know 'cause he's not here right now. that's why i ran away. >> when he left, what was he wearing? >> who knows. >> the police are on the way. talk to them when they get there. >> i need -- okay. >> i told you they're on the way. talk to them when they get there. >> all right, okay. bye. >> just listen to that, it is absolutely mind boggling. you hear the absolute fear in berry's voice, fear, specifically, toward a man she named ariel castro, the 52-year-old is now under arrest, as we mentioned, along with his brothers pedro and oneil. as for charges, charges have not yet been filed, but a neighbor who saw the women say their condition literally brought her to tears. anderson cooper talked to the woman's niece and asked her what the victim
>> his name is ariel castro. >> okay, how old is he? >> he's like 52. and i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news for the last ten years. >> okay, i got that, dear. and you say what was his name again? >> ariel castro. >> and is he white, black or hispanic? >> hispanic. >> what's he wearing? >> i don't know 'cause he's not here right now. that's why i ran away. >> when he left, what was he wearing? >> who knows. >> the...
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>> his name is ariel castro. >> all right. how old is he? >> he was, like, 52. >> all right. i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news for the last ten years. >> i got that here. >> you say what was his name again? >> ariel castro. >> is he white or hispanic? >> hispanic. >> what was he wearing? >> i don't know. he is nott here right now. >> when he left what was he wearing? >>. >> the police are on their way. talk to them when they get there. >> okay. i neat -- >> i told you they're on their way. talk to them when they get there. okay. >> bye. >> she made that call after she was able to look out of the house without being held and flag down a neighbor. i come outside and see this girl going nuts trying to get out of the house. i go on the porch, and she said help me get out. i've been in here a long time. i figured it was a domestic violence dispute. i open the door and we can't get in that way. elts so much that a body can't fit through. just a hand. she comes out with the little girl, and she says call 911. my name is amanda berry. >> do you know what that was when she said
>> his name is ariel castro. >> all right. how old is he? >> he was, like, 52. >> all right. i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news for the last ten years. >> i got that here. >> you say what was his name again? >> ariel castro. >> is he white or hispanic? >> hispanic. >> what was he wearing? >> i don't know. he is nott here right now. >> when he left what was he wearing? >>. >> the police are on their way....
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these are allegations of abuse and abduction against ariel castro. we do have to say that these charges were dismissed later in that year. a court official familiar with the case tells us however that that does not necessarily mean a finding of guilty or not guilty. there were several instances where ariel castro did not show up for court. and finally on one of the bigger days of these proceedings, the lawyer for gramidla was not able to be present and the court determined she would be at a disadvantage so they dismissed the case against him. according to a court official familiar with this case, that was not necessarily a finding of guilt or guilty or not guilty with regard to these allegations, ashleigh. >> and, again, brian, we should remind our viewers these allegations come for protective order, but not -- they didn't result necessarily in charges of abuse, which is so remarkable. and, brian, as we know this wife, gramilda is now deceased, is there anything in any of these dock yuments to indicate where these two children are, these two daughter
these are allegations of abuse and abduction against ariel castro. we do have to say that these charges were dismissed later in that year. a court official familiar with the case tells us however that that does not necessarily mean a finding of guilty or not guilty. there were several instances where ariel castro did not show up for court. and finally on one of the bigger days of these proceedings, the lawyer for gramidla was not able to be present and the court determined she would be at a...
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was a suicide note from ariel castro found in his home? >> that is another part of evidence that we recovered that i cannot comment on, on the basis of that. there was over 200 items taken from the home on seymour avenue. all of those items will be processed. they were all taken into custody of the fbi evidence response team. they've yet to be processed. exactly what they are i don't know. there is a crime scene log but that is part of the open investigation. i can tell you there was over 200 items taken out of that home. any questions, ed, about the citizenship of the castro brothers? are they u.s. citizens? >> i don't know. i couldn't tell you. >> thanks. >> we had a lot of questions earlier regarding extra 911 calls that may have come up and not been responded to. >> i'll try and answer that question the best i can. immediately after the recovery of the three victims and the daughter from the home on seymour avenue we began a search of our records to determine whether or not there were any other calls for service to that house on seymou
was a suicide note from ariel castro found in his home? >> that is another part of evidence that we recovered that i cannot comment on, on the basis of that. there was over 200 items taken from the home on seymour avenue. all of those items will be processed. they were all taken into custody of the fbi evidence response team. they've yet to be processed. exactly what they are i don't know. there is a crime scene log but that is part of the open investigation. i can tell you there was over...
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you are looking at the back yard of ariel castro. these are pictures that were shared with me and my producer here from his back yard, which is also considered a crime scene. white tarp, fbi agents. this is the day after these young women were freed. and he describes seeing a hole that was dug by the agents at approximately eight feet by eight feet. this is just an idea of what we've been seeing. no one has actually seen these back yard shots until now. one other picture i want to share with you that was something that really struck this neighbor, a little white cross in the back yard of ariel castro. back in a moment. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all? it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency. the ambulance will talk to patient records will talk to doctors about saving
you are looking at the back yard of ariel castro. these are pictures that were shared with me and my producer here from his back yard, which is also considered a crime scene. white tarp, fbi agents. this is the day after these young women were freed. and he describes seeing a hole that was dug by the agents at approximately eight feet by eight feet. this is just an idea of what we've been seeing. no one has actually seen these back yard shots until now. one other picture i want to share with...
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this is ariel castro's latest mugshot. earlier today castro stood before a judge to hear the charges against him. he didn't speak during the hearing, but the prosecutor had plenty to say. he told the judge that castro turned his home into a prison for three young women. >> -- charges based on premeditated, deliberate and depraved decisions to snatch three young ladies from cleveland west side streelts to be used in some self-satisfyi, s self-serving way to see as sought fit. held these women for a decade, and third close to a decade and a little girl believed to have been born to one of the women while in captivity. also in captivity they withstood repeated beatings, they were bound and restrained and sexually assaulted. they were never free to leave this residence. >> horrifying details. and there's a lot more. castro didn't enter a plea. he faces four counts of kidnapping, three counts of rape. bond was set at $8 million. $2 million for each of the four victims. police say he lured them one by one into his car and held t
this is ariel castro's latest mugshot. earlier today castro stood before a judge to hear the charges against him. he didn't speak during the hearing, but the prosecutor had plenty to say. he told the judge that castro turned his home into a prison for three young women. >> -- charges based on premeditated, deliberate and depraved decisions to snatch three young ladies from cleveland west side streelts to be used in some self-satisfyi, s self-serving way to see as sought fit. held these...
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they arrested a 52-year-old former school bus drive who are lives there, ariel castro. they also arrested his two brothers. >> they made some statements to the responding officers that gave us a probable cause to effect their arrest. >> reporter: the rescued women taken to a nearby hospital and checked out. a photo of a beaming amanda berry and her sister appeared on facebook. >> currently, they're safe. we're in the process of evaluating medical needs. they appear to be in fair condition at the moment. this is really good. this isn't the ending we hear to the stories. so we're very happy been. >> reporter: that sense of happiness and relief shared by police. >> it's a great -- it's a great day. >> reporter: and the people of cleveland. >> it's an unbelievable day. >> martin savidge joining us from cleveland. we flow that the police are now looking at these three brothers. what do we know about these guys? >> reporter: well, authorities are just starting to learn something about these guys. you know they are all brother. they're all age 50, 52, 54. they've been identifi
they arrested a 52-year-old former school bus drive who are lives there, ariel castro. they also arrested his two brothers. >> they made some statements to the responding officers that gave us a probable cause to effect their arrest. >> reporter: the rescued women taken to a nearby hospital and checked out. a photo of a beaming amanda berry and her sister appeared on facebook. >> currently, they're safe. we're in the process of evaluating medical needs. they appear to be in...
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before ariel castro. taken into custody initially. and no charges in connection with this case. but as we heard in the hearing, they are facing some misdemeanor charges, open container, drug abuse, so forth. it appears they will be released after they pay their fines and so forth. but we saw ariel castro making his first appearance before the judge. the initial appearance, the judge reading castro's rights to him, will tell him the charges that he's facing, ask him if he understand the scharges, setting bail at $2 million per charge there. we're waiting to hear if he will enter a plea. he has the right to waive that, however. >> and, pamela, is your understanding the same as mine, so $2 million per that would be $6 million. >> reporter: that's what it appears, zoraida. it appears $6 million. >> all right. let's head over to john berman in new york. >> thank you so much, zoraida. i'm joined by former prosecutor wendy murphy. we're hearing the figure for bail. $2 million per case. i want to know what you ma
before ariel castro. taken into custody initially. and no charges in connection with this case. but as we heard in the hearing, they are facing some misdemeanor charges, open container, drug abuse, so forth. it appears they will be released after they pay their fines and so forth. but we saw ariel castro making his first appearance before the judge. the initial appearance, the judge reading castro's rights to him, will tell him the charges that he's facing, ask him if he understand the...
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there's something inside ariel's house. i said, ariel lives by himself. there's plywood on all the windows and plastic across all the windows, dark plastic. so i walked back to the house, and i called the police, maybe 20, 30 minutes, they pulled up. they approached ariel's house, knocked on the door, hard times. there was no response. they walked into the driveway and looked all around. they can't see [ bleep ]. they didn't see nothing, so they got back in the car, and went up on their way. >> that was the last of that incident. after that, did you ever have any more suspicions, did your sister have any more suspicions that something not so good was happening at that house? >> well, my sister always kept on telling me, you should watch the kids around ariel. i said, he's a school bus driver. i don't think he's that type of person. but it turns out that he was, you know. that's the sick thing about it, me thinking that i got a good neighbor and i didn't even know my neighbor that i thought i knew. >> so you were shocked by this news, because you've known
there's something inside ariel's house. i said, ariel lives by himself. there's plywood on all the windows and plastic across all the windows, dark plastic. so i walked back to the house, and i called the police, maybe 20, 30 minutes, they pulled up. they approached ariel's house, knocked on the door, hard times. there was no response. they walked into the driveway and looked all around. they can't see [ bleep ]. they didn't see nothing, so they got back in the car, and went up on their way....
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clearly it looks like ariel castro was capable of violence. >> martin savidge, you talked a lot to ariel castro's family members. did they mention this alleged domestic abuse? >> no, they don't mention that specific incident that are you describing. they do talk about the fact that there were problems with the two other brothers, they knew of alcohol problems. you know, there has been talk of problems between husband and wife. ariel, however, they say they were shocked when they have now read these violent assaults. they said they weren't aware of it. it's really difficult to understand, is this the public front they are putting for their family, or was there a clear understanding, a problem between husband and wife? we can't discern that in just talking to them? >> thank you so much. it's difficult to wrap your head around the fact that one man could have held three women captive in the same house for ten years. it turns out neighbors did see suspicious behavior, like a naked woman in the backyard. tori dunan live in cleveland with that part of the story what did this neighbor tell you?
clearly it looks like ariel castro was capable of violence. >> martin savidge, you talked a lot to ariel castro's family members. did they mention this alleged domestic abuse? >> no, they don't mention that specific incident that are you describing. they do talk about the fact that there were problems with the two other brothers, they knew of alcohol problems. you know, there has been talk of problems between husband and wife. ariel, however, they say they were shocked when they...
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and she said ariel. and i said how is that possible? if you got kidnapped, he was having sex with you, oh, jesus christ. that little girl is his? now he wants we want to hurt yo? >> you felt that. >> bro, this would be a different interview. had we known that, i would be facing triple life. >> wow. i'm glad it turned out this way. >> reporter: you know how charles ramsey said give the girls the money, right? we have a t-shirt being sold to raise money for the victims. it's hodges cleveland restaurant and apparently that's where charles ramsey works. there it is, this is the t-shirt a picture of him on the front of the t-shirt, all of the information if you want to go online and be able to raise some money for the victims of this horrific crime. 100% of the proceeds go to the fund for the three victims. all you have to do is go to the site on the facebook page and you too will be own that t-shirt and contribute to the fund. charles ramsey is getting the ultimate internet accolade. his interviews have been auto tuned. listen to this. ♪
and she said ariel. and i said how is that possible? if you got kidnapped, he was having sex with you, oh, jesus christ. that little girl is his? now he wants we want to hurt yo? >> you felt that. >> bro, this would be a different interview. had we known that, i would be facing triple life. >> wow. i'm glad it turned out this way. >> reporter: you know how charles ramsey said give the girls the money, right? we have a t-shirt being sold to raise money for the victims....
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it's ariel castro. what catches the officer's eye and probably was too quick for you was the license plate on the back of the bike is turned sideways. he says that is an old trick when riders have something to hide. so the officer follows castro into the gas station and confronts him. >> a driver's license. what's wrong? >> reporter: castro, it turns out, doesn't have a motorcycle driver's license and that is a serious offense. it could lead to his arrest. and it may be why castro seems nervous. this, by the way, is the last known interaction that castro has with law enforcement before he was arrested last monday, a little less than five years later. and notice how polite castro is when the officer comes back with the other news. the plates on the bike don't belong to that bike. >> these plates don't belong to this bike, do they? what year model is this? >> this is a 2000. >> where's the harley? you keep getting deeper and deeper and deeper. >> i know, but i just got off of work, i'm a school bus driver
it's ariel castro. what catches the officer's eye and probably was too quick for you was the license plate on the back of the bike is turned sideways. he says that is an old trick when riders have something to hide. so the officer follows castro into the gas station and confronts him. >> a driver's license. what's wrong? >> reporter: castro, it turns out, doesn't have a motorcycle driver's license and that is a serious offense. it could lead to his arrest. and it may be why castro...
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and we're getting our first look this morning at ariel castro. he's the man accused of kidnapping three women and holding them captive in his home for a decade. castro is facing four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape. listen to a reporter of woio from cleveland peppering him with questions that everyone wants answered. >> why are you covering your face? what do you have to say to those women? how could you do that? what kind of monster does this? >> we're also learning a lot more about the abuse and the tort tutor that was endured by amanda bary. gina dejesus and michelle knight. in an initial report obtained by cnn, knight was allegedly starved and beaten after multiple pregnancies in order to induce miscarriages. that's probably explaining why michelle knight was in the hospital. initially when we talked to freddie, her brother, he said that she looked pale. we talked to gina's family who spent some time with her. they said she's always been a slight girl referring to how short she is. the good news is they told us her spirits are r
and we're getting our first look this morning at ariel castro. he's the man accused of kidnapping three women and holding them captive in his home for a decade. castro is facing four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape. listen to a reporter of woio from cleveland peppering him with questions that everyone wants answered. >> why are you covering your face? what do you have to say to those women? how could you do that? what kind of monster does this? >> we're also learning a...
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apparently when ariel castro left the house berry and at long last seized her moment to escape. she called a neighbor over to the house and he was utterly gob smacked to learn what was happening in his neighborhood by someone he knew, someone with whom he had even eaten ribs. >> i'm eating my mcdonald's. i come outside. i see this girl going nuts trying to get out of a house. you look and you look away because he's not doing nothing but the average stuff. you see what i'm saying? nothing exciting about him. well, until today. >> the missing women were not the only ones rescued from that home. amanda berry is in the center of this picture. the girl in the bed is believed to be her daughter who was also freed. the girl is 6 years old. berry's been missing for a decade. it's not hard to do the math and arrive at a very unsettling conclusion there. for the families of these three victims it's been a decade of pain and uncertainty never knowing what happened to these young women, never knowing if they'd ever see them again alive. with their prayers finally answered these families now
apparently when ariel castro left the house berry and at long last seized her moment to escape. she called a neighbor over to the house and he was utterly gob smacked to learn what was happening in his neighborhood by someone he knew, someone with whom he had even eaten ribs. >> i'm eating my mcdonald's. i come outside. i see this girl going nuts trying to get out of a house. you look and you look away because he's not doing nothing but the average stuff. you see what i'm saying? nothing...
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ariel castro is the one ha amanda berry said had taken her. this reminds me of the jaycee dugard story. she was snatched by a car. you're going to be with her tonight. tell me a little bit about -- of the similarities between the cases and what we can learn ab the next process, the healing for these women because of the jaycee dugard story. >> there's tremendous parallels there. in jaycee dugard's case, neighbors called repeatedly and said we had seen activity in the backyard. and phil leap give ree do was a second offender who beat her almost to death and kept her in a storage unit and he got out on parole. if i was the sheriff in the town and he said it it repeatedly, we should have gown in the backyard. he violated his parole and probation and went away for an entire month while his psychopath wife kept jaycee in the backyard. so you have a similar situation here. you have three missing women. you have a child created by assault, by a sexual assault probably and you have neighbors calling up. why don't you go in? you have every right. go in
ariel castro is the one ha amanda berry said had taken her. this reminds me of the jaycee dugard story. she was snatched by a car. you're going to be with her tonight. tell me a little bit about -- of the similarities between the cases and what we can learn ab the next process, the healing for these women because of the jaycee dugard story. >> there's tremendous parallels there. in jaycee dugard's case, neighbors called repeatedly and said we had seen activity in the backyard. and phil...
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she said ariel. >> she said that? >> yeah. i said how that possible? you got kidnapped -- oh, he was having sex with you, oh, jesus -- that little girl is his. now who want to hurt you. >> you felt that? >> brother, this would be a different interview, i told you that. if we had known that. man i'd be facing triple life. >> wow. i'm glad it turned out this way. >> what a great storyteller. so we have an interesting development for charles ramsey this morning. mcdonald's has reached out to him on twitter, writing this. we salute the courage of ohio kidnap victims and respect their privacy. way to go charles ramsey. we'll be in touch. and john, if you recall, we're not playing that 911 tape right now, but in that 911 tape what he says is, check this out, i just came from mcdonald's right, i'm on my porch eating my little food and then you know he goes to tell the dispatcher what's going on, and you know these girls' lives basically are saved. that moment and the fact that he continuously mentioned mcdonald's, they have now reached out to him. >> said he
she said ariel. >> she said that? >> yeah. i said how that possible? you got kidnapped -- oh, he was having sex with you, oh, jesus -- that little girl is his. now who want to hurt you. >> you felt that? >> brother, this would be a different interview, i told you that. if we had known that. man i'd be facing triple life. >> wow. i'm glad it turned out this way. >> what a great storyteller. so we have an interesting development for charles ramsey this morning....